Meeting in Vienna

Currently the dates, where everybody can be there are:

2.-17. October

Sophie and Sabine, are you avaible during this period? (And ready to go to Vienna for a couple of days?)

XXL

I will be available 18 sept-11 october.

Sabine

Dear all,

this and next year the Acoustics Research Institute (ARI, http://www.kfs.oeaw.ac.at/ ) and the Laboratoire de Mécanique et d’Acoustique (LMA, http://www.lma.cnrs-mrs.fr/ ) of the CNRS Marseille have an exchange program approved with the title 'Time-Frequency Representation and Audio Perception'.

In the week of
2nd to 6th of october
some people the LMA will visit the ARI. The idea will be to have one to two days of formal talks and presentation:
* a tour through the institute showing the different groups and the existing infrastructure,
* talks representing the work of all the different groups and scientists in the ARI,
* the same for their groups of the LMA.

After that one or more day of informal discussions about special topics (possibly in smaller groups) and how we could further cooperate in the future. Possible topics include:
- Masking and Psychoacoustics
- Software and Algorithms
- Signal Processing and Synthesis
- Statistical modelling
etc....

I plan also to think of a social program for some of the related evenings to also try to get to know each other better from a personal point of view. (At least one thing seems very likely: a presentation of Austrian wine by a friend of mine, who is a wine seller.)

The groups that will visit the ARI will be the
* Modélisation, Synthèse et Contrôle des Signaux Sonores et Musicaux (http://www.lma.cnrs-mrs.fr/article28.html) and
* Acoustique perceptive et qualité de l’environnement sonore (http://www.lma.cnrs-mrs.fr/article11.html)
Five people will visit us, including both group leaders.

So please reserve this week!! If you find time, maybe have a look at their homepages to think of interesting topics to discuss.

Peter

P.S.: This is just the text I have sent to the people in Austria. I thought maybe we might need something more explanatory .....

Peter

Hi!

I am leaving Marseille tomorrow. I am looking forward seeing you all in Vienna in October.

See you soon,
Peter

xxl wrote:

2nd to 6th of october

I think we should become more precise, here.

So I propose to use the 2nd and 6th of october for travels, and the 3rd to 5th of october for work.

Peter

I think it's a good proposition

Concerning the report I'm ok to do something (with your help ) but I have to talk about that with Sabine and Sophie because I have only Alexandros bibliography report's and nothing concerning the experiment results nor the Master thesis.

Let me know

See you soon,

Thibaud.

Hi guys!

Concerning the travel to Vienna from the 2th to the 6th October: OK for me, let's wait for Sabine's come back to book anything.

Concerning the summary of the first data: I'm on it, I hope to finish today or tomorrow in the late morning. It does not make any sense to send you Alex's report, as this report is clearly bad. Hence, Thibaut being absent, I'm writing something in English that I will both send to you all by e-mail and post in jpg format on the forum in the appropriate topic (psychoacoustics)

Hi, all!

Sophie wrote:

Concerning the travel to Vienna from the 2th to the 6th October: OK for me, let's wait for Sabine's come back to book anything.

Good. My suggestion would be to use the 2nd and 6th for travels (and / or fun) and the 3rd-5th for work.

Sophie wrote:

Concerning the summary of the first data: I'm on it, I hope to finish today or tomorrow in the late morning. It does not make any sense to send you Alex's report, as this report is clearly bad. Hence, Thibaut being absent, I'm writing something in English that I will both send to you all by e-mail and post in jpg format on the forum in the appropriate topic (psychoacoustics)

Okay, thank you very much!!!!!

Peter

Hi all,
the dates proposed by Peter seem fine. I was afraid it would be more expensive if we didn't spend the week end, but Lufthansa doesn't seem to mind, at least for the time being (suppose we should make reservations quickly). The most interesting flight seems to be the Lufthansa 4369/6330 on the 2nd of october (Monday) which leaves Marseille at 19:00 and arrives Vienna at 22:30.
Peter: will it be a problem to arrive in Vienna this late in the evening? Are there buses at this time and/or do the hotels accept late arrivals?
The return is on Friday 6/10, departure 11:15 with arrival at 16:30.
I'll have to contact the PAI program quickly to try to get prepaid tickets. Sabine wrote me a message on the 25th of July telling me that she'd like to avoid spending the week end in Vienna, but did not seem to have any particular constraints exept this.
As soon as I get acceptance from all of you (Sabine, Sophie, Thibaud) concerning the flight I've described, I'll do the reservations - so be quick!

Solvi wrote:

Hi all,
the dates proposed by Peter seem fine. I was afraid it would be more expensive if we didn't spend the week end, but Lufthansa doesn't seem to mind, at least for the time being (suppose we should make reservations quickly). The most interesting flight seems to be the Lufthansa 4369/6330 on the 2nd of october (Monday) which leaves Marseille at 19:00 and arrives Vienna at 22:30.

I didn't want to imply that you should not stay a weekend in Vienna. Rather, it would be nice, if you could.

Solvi wrote:

Peter: will it be a problem to arrive in Vienna this late in the evening? Are there buses at this time and/or do the hotels accept late arrivals?

Public transport stops after midnight and the hotels should be okay with late arrievals, if you tell them beforehand.

BTW: I have collected a nice list of hotels for the HASSIp workshop. Have a look at http://www.kfs.oeaw.ac.at/HASSIP/hassip.htm

Solvi wrote:

The return is on Friday 6/10, departure 11:15 with arrival at 16:30.

So you really do not want free days in the beautiful city of Vienna respectively no time to visit me in my small town or do something else in this part in Austria?

Solvi wrote:

I'll have to contact the PAI program quickly to try to get prepaid tickets.

Please also ask, until when you have to apply for the second year, I still did not find out, if it is end of august or end of september.

Solvi wrote:

Sabine wrote me a message on the 25th of July telling me that she'd like to avoid spending the week end in Vienna

That's a pity, but what about the others?

Peter

Thibaud wrote:

Concerning the report I'm ok to do something (with your help ) but I have to talk about that with Sabine and Sophie because I have only Alexandros bibliography report's and nothing concerning the experiment results nor the Master thesis.

Let me know

Yes, please do!!

Please try to write a maximum 2 page report. Use some information from Sophie's report and wrfte about how much we discussed, how important the collaboration was, etc...Maybe talk to Richard, I think, he is good in formulating such stuff.

Peter

Hi everybody

Ok Peter, I'll talk with Richard and write a small report about the work and the collaboration, no problem

Concerning the flights to Vienna it's all good for me, even if I would enjoy to spend the week-end in Austria to discover this country But if Sabine has to come back in Marseille it's not a problem

So, let us know

Bye, see you all soon

Thibaud wrote:

Concerning the flights to Vienna it's all good for me, even if I would enjoy to spend the week-end in Austria to discover this country But if Sabine has to come back in Marseille it's not a problem

Except if you get a special prcie for groups (which you might look into), you could also choose different traveling dates for different people, no?

Peter

P.S:: On the 1st of october there are national election in Austria, so this might be a busy weekend here.

Peter is right,
it's no problem if Thibaud or somebody else wants to stay a bit longer. For Richard and I it's a bit complicated because of the kids, otherwise we would have liked to stay longer.
Anyway, it's important for me to get an answer from each of you concerning the dates so that I can reserve the plane tickets!

Concerning the PAI and your question Peter, I don't have any more details about deadlines for 2nd year applications. All they told me was that I couldn't write any report until people from marseille had traveled to Vienna, which sounds reasonable. It's a bit different for you, since you've already traveled, so I'll see if I can get some more information next time I contact them.

That's it for now - I'm waiting for your travel dates!

Preliminary Program:

02.10.:
Arrival

03.10.:
- a tour through the institute showing the different groups and the
existing infrastructure,
- talks representing the work of all the different groups and scientists
in our lab, the ARI,
- the same for their groups of the LMA.
- discussion

04.10.:
- topic: time frequency masking
- talks about this topic
- scientific discussion
- discussion about project planning

05.10.
- small talks
- mainly discussions
- Possible further topics include:
* Software and Algorithms
* Signal Processing and Synthesis
* Statistical modelling
etc....
- discussion about further cooperation

06.10.:
Departure

Social program:

-- Tuesday, 3. Oct.:
Going for dinner near to our institute (at the 'campus').

-- Wednesday, 4. Oct.:
Concert 'Der Messias' by G.F. Händel,
Conducted by N. Harnoncourt
Look http://www.musikverein.at/konzerte/konzertprogramm.asp?idx=14364.

Costs: 40-72 Euro, depending on the seats

-- Thursday, 5. Oct.:
Restaurant
Beim Novak
Richtergasse 12
1070 Wien

Look at http://www.beimnovak.at/kontakt.html

Very good Viennese food. Wine-tasting with a friend of mine, who is a wine-seller.

Costs: approx. 40 Euro with wine and food, depending on your food choice.

IMPORTANT: Please let me know, as soon as possible, if you plan to particpate on wednesday and thursday! Please at least until 12th of september (next tuesday).

The costs for the concert at 04.Oct are actually cheaper than specified earlier. They are in the rage 4-55 Euro.

Bernhard

xxl wrote:

Social program:

-- Tuesday, 3. Oct.:
Going for dinner near to our institute (at the 'campus').

-- Wednesday, 4. Oct.:
Concert 'Der Messias' by G.F. Händel,
Conducted by N. Harnoncourt
Look http://www.musikverein.at/konzerte/konzertprogramm.asp?idx=14364.

Costs: 40-72 Euro, depending on the seats

-- Thursday, 5. Oct.:
Restaurant
Beim Novak
Richtergasse 12
1070 Wien

Look at http://www.beimnovak.at/kontakt.html

Very good Viennese food. Wine-tasting with a friend of mine, who is a wine-seller.

Costs: approx. 40 Euro with wine and food, depending on your food choice.

IMPORTANT: Please let me know, as soon as possible, if you plan to particpate on wednesday and thursday! Please at least until 12th of september (next tuesday).

The program looks great - I'm ready for all your propositions. Concert and dinner sound very nice. I'm very curious about the wine-tasting and the Viennese food, and a classical concert could be nice after all these years with only hard rock

Solvi wrote:

The program looks great - I'm ready for all your propositions. Concert and dinner sound very nice. I'm very curious about the wine-tasting and the Viennese food, and a classical concert could be nice after all these years with only hard rock

Good. What about the rest?

Could you post an answer or write an e-mail as soon as possible, please?

Peter

Hello, I'm still alive...

OK for the social program, it seems very nice.
I am leaving on thursday (and Sophie also), so I will not come at the dinner this evening, but I will be here for the concert and for the dinner the first evening.

Thank you for having prepared these nice evenings

Sabine

Hi everybody,

As far as I'm concerned I'm ok for all propositions, even if the concert is a little expensive for me. I hope we can get the lowest price tickets...

Sorry for my late reply, thanks a lot for that nice program XXL

Hi everybody,

Below you find the detailed programm for the meeting here in Vienna.
Thibaud: The price of the concert is actually in the range 4-55 Euro. So it should be affordable for everybody, at least at the cheaper seats.

Bernhard and Peter
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* Tuesday, 3. Oct.:

10:00-11:00 Tour of the ARI,
11:00-11:30 Coffee break
11:30-13:00: Overview of work in the working groups, part I
13:00-14:30 lunch break
14.30-16:00 Overview of work in the working groups, part II
16:00-16:30 Coffee Break
16:30-18:00 further discussions

Overview of work in the working groups:
each presentation should really be short, about 10 min., but the time for discussions should be flexible and open!

The talks should be:
-Overview of Acoustics Research Institute, ARI (W. Deutsch)
-Numerical Acoustics (H. Waubke)
-Phonetics (S. Moosmüller / T. Becker)
-Experimental Audiology (B. Laback / P. Majdak / M. Goupell)
-Psychoacoustics (W. Deutsch)
-Mathematics in Acoustics (P. Balazs)
-Signal Processing/Software Development (A. Noll / J. White)
- Overview of the LMA (R. Kronland-Martinet / S. Meunier)
-The S2M Group (R. Kronland-Martinez / S. Ystad)
-The psychoacoustics Group (S. Meunier / S. Savel)
-SensSons (S. Ystad )

Social event:
appr. 20:00 dinner at the University Campus

* Wednesday, 4. Oct.:
10:00-12:00: Time-Freqency (t-f) Masking Project (each presentation 20 min)
-P. Balazs: Concept of a time-frequency masking filter based on 3-D convolution
-B. Laback: Updated concept for experiments on t-f masking masking
-S. Savel: First results on t-f-masking experiment in Marseille
-R. Kronland-Martinez / Thibaud Necciari: Application for Synthesis
-W. Deutsch: Application of masking filter

12:00-13:30 Lunch Break

13:30-17:00 Discussion
-Project organization; proposed topics:
*The controversial condition "delta-f/delta-t=0"
*Concept for dissertation on t-f masking
*Experiment platform: compatibility between Marseille and Vienna

Social event:
19:00 Concert 'Der Messias' by G.F. Händel,
Conducted by N. Harnoncourt
http://www.musikverein.at/konzerte/konzertprogramm.asp?idx=14364.


* Thursday, 5. Oct.:
10:00-open end: Extended discussions on open points from previous days.
Discussion about further cooperation possibilities, future projects, etc..
Further points for discussion:
* Software and Algorithms
* Signal Processing and Synthesis
* Statistical modelling
etc....

Social event:
appr. 20:00 Lunch at Restaurant Beim Novak, Richtergasse 12, 1070 Wien

Hi,

According to me it's a good program, we will have opportunity to tackle several linked domains such as psychoacoustics, mathematics, analysis, synthesis and so on...good!

No problem for the concert Bernhard, it's ok.

See you soon,

Bye,

Thibaud.

P.S. Maybe you should edit your post and correct the mistake on Richard's name